3 votes by tummy — 3 votes, 6 comments

Solid is an exciting new project led by Prof. Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web, taking place at MIT. The project aims to radically change the way Web applications work today, resulting in true data ownership as well as improved privacy.

Good grief why can't they just say clearly what this is about? It sounds like something interesting... if only they said how the project works...

We discussed it briefly in early 2017 here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnunet-developers/2017-04/msg00006.html

I asked around about Solid since it sounded like some semantic web retread. We should not expect anything useful from them.

It's apparently some perfect storm of web developers doing cryptography really badly, while ignoring warnings about trivial things like no reusing signing keys for encryption.

Worse, the W3C is now doing nasty DRM shit (EME) in part because they wasted so much money on Solid.

I think Matrix is broadly considered promising, but afaik they cannot do anything high latency, so metadata leakage galore.

Thanks for the link.

I grew up thinking TBL was a hero for making something that everybody use today, but the more I learn about W3C the more I dislike (a lot of) what they do.

Okay, it's a field where there has been always competition. Shared knowledge would prevent reinventing the wheel a thousand times over and over again.

He will never reach out to gnunet. His career is built around the web and the w3c. if gnunet is successful, it could disrupt the web (the same is true for ipfs & Co., it's just a matter of who will win, gnunet or ipfs). Everything he does is for the project he's acclaimed for, the web. DRM is an example: he wants to be the paladin of open data, open web, no-copyright web for everybody; then why did he push DRM down our throat? Was he afraid that the web could become less relevant without DRM, for example people moving elsewhere? The only way to gain his support is by identifying how gnunet can help the web, not how gnunet can replace the web.

I don't understand how GNUNET would disrupt the web? The "web" is a client-server architecture where you use a client that can download documents and retrieve information from servers using URLs. It's a rather abstract idea. GNUNET is on a "lower level", the only thing it would disrupt is the current client-server model, or more in general how computers are connected. You can still have "the web" ontop of GNUNET/IPFS/TOR/[else].