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6 votes grimlok — 6 votes, 6 commentsSource

When has programming stopped being about algorithms and turned into gender studies? I didn’t enroll for this.

When interacting with other humans became necessary?

When you talk about programming with a person then you don’t need anything but I and you. Just implement a word filter for that stupid gender shit. My preferred gender is almighty king, but nobody cares.

Admittedly not the main point here, but the moderator suspended was a moderator in a non-technical/technological section of SE - the relevant bit being that they need to talk about people, not just code.

But on the main point, what is so unacceptable that addressing people the way they want to be addressed is becoming part of the requirements of polite conversation? It’s a new thing for sure, but not everything new is bad.

Of course, we are not, and should not always be polite. But violations of principles of conversation is meaningful. For example, when I refuse to call DRM by its “preferred expansion”, as many in the free software movement do, it’s a meaningful act of contempt against those who promote and implement DRM.

what is so unacceptable that addressing people the way they want to be addressed is becoming part of the requirements of polite conversation?

What is unacceptable is that this new wave of gender crusaders are making SO a worse place for everybody under the assumption that misgendering is done on purpose, on a tech Q&A site where gender should have no place whatsoever. Yesterday you were a he, today you want to be called a she, I make a mistake, I’m framed. I have bugs to fix, who cares if we are a he she they or a robot? Everybody use a neutral gender and go back to Q&A.

Everybody use a neutral gender and go back to Q&A.

That was the crux of the issue right? The dismissed moderator went out of their way to refuse using ‘singular they’, which is the most popular and widely accepted gender neutral pronoun in English.

Yesterday you were a he, today you want to be called a she, I make a mistake, I’m framed.

Is that a scenario that ever played out? The most high profile case of a transition mid-story in the free software circles was that of Chelsea Manning’s, and no-one got into trouble for anything they wrote before she transitioned. I understand the fear, but it’s just that, a baseless fear. I also never heard of people getting in trouble for making mistakes, nor did I ever got in trouble for misgendering someone due to ignorance or because I was a sloppy writer - the people who get in trouble are those who have openly stated that they refuse to use preferred pronouns to make a point that they oppose acceptance of gender transition (e.g. Nina Paley’s case). Those people are criticised or driven out of spaces for their political stances, not their grammatical choices.