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The Open Source Inquisition! But in all seriousness, you people pushed codes of conduct? Now the codes of conduct are keeping you out.

It was a mistake. :(

I don’t know if this is related, but F-Droid staffers reached out to contributors (and old staff) earlier in December about what F-Droid is trying to do, what the “mission” is. Iirc the discussion is still in progress, so while they have to act on current things, some actions might get reverted or doubled down. I think you should give them the time, to think about the issue and form an inclusion policy.

It seems very clear to me that f-droid is not a free platform even if everybody expects it. F-Droid the app can use any repository, but the people curating the official repository have clearly taken a political stance when they banned Gab. The key word is “promote”. They will deny any app that “promotes” certain things (the same reason that you ban instances that “promote” porn). Spinster apparently “promotes” transphobia and that’s what they are banning.

I think they’re making a stretch to say that allowing certain speech is promoting it.

Depending on you code of conduct not fighting it might be already promoting it.

  1. If 1% of posts were transphobia would it be promoting it?
  2. If 50% of posts were transphobia would it be promoting it?
  3. If 100% of posts were transphobia would it be promoting it?

At which percentage would you fight it? Obviously never so you are promoting it.

People have hugely different definitions of transphobia. I think “Trans people are degenerates” is an example of transphobia. These cases account for less than 1% of posts on Spinster, and would be removed by a moderator for hate speech.

“Women do not have penises” and “trans women aren’t women” are just opinions. Disagreement is not hate.

“The banning comes after false allegations were made about Spinster by men’s rights activists. Spinster had previously been accepted into F-Droid’s repository.”

Men did it! It was the men! Can’t we just get along?

That happens when they target men instead of targeting discrimination (and equally likely if men target women).

That is my basic problem with feminism. If would take a humanists point of view you would cover all topics of feminism that are concerned of equality and strip off all topics against men including revenge and domination.

I don’t know everything that is going on but from the look of it they are not banning (or silencing) spinster because you are women. Their reasons are hate speech against trans and failure to moderate content on the website. Your post has a few hyperbolic claims but overall “Stephen D” is right: they should not make a decision based on anything but whether the app is open source or not.

Spinster has 4 dedicated moderators and a whole handbook outlining moderation practices on hate speech: https://handbook.spinster.xyz/the-rules.html

I also responded to accusations in the initial PR: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/merge_requests/6076

Thanks, this gives some more context.

lmao choosing a federation server has become like choosing your gang. Do I join the Loonies or the Yutes?

when you choose freepost you are in for life!

It seems very clear to me that f-droid is not a free platform even if everybody expects it. F-Droid the app can use any repository, but the people curating the official repository have clearly taken a political stance when they banned Gab. The key word is “promote”. They will deny any app that “promotes” certain things (the same reason that you ban instances that “promote” porn). Spinster apparently “promotes” transphobia and that’s what they are banning.